whatever

The word "whatever" is, to me, one of the most offensive out there when used in a certain way. I used to say it a lot when I was in my first years of high school, until somebody unloaded on me for it. I hadn't realized how offensive I was being, but I agreed with him immediately, and have hated the word ever since.
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Of course, there are many uses of the word that are totally harmless and even funny. For example, it's fine to say "whatever happens, I'll still love you" or "you can have whatever is left over." If somebody is teasing you about something, you can indignantly say "whatever!" to mean "that's so not true!" If somebody does something lame and knows it, you can do the classic "W" formation with your thumbs and index fingers from Clueless and laugh at them.

But in the context of a more serious conversation, its use can range from rude to devastatingly insulting.
On one end of the spectrum is the ungrateful teenager whose mom calls up to his room and says "What would you like for dinner, Sweetie?" and the kid says "Whatever, Mom." That shows that her efforts will probably go unappreciated, and will at least deflate her desire to do something nice.
Slightly more offensive is when the mom has already made dinner, the kid comes to the table, she smiles and excitedly tells him that she's made his favorite, and the kid says "Whatever, Mom" and picks up the plate and goes to sit in front of the TV. That's worse because it dismisses all the effort and care she went to as not being of any importance to the kid.
The harmfulness of its use varies proportionally with how much the person being scorned cares about what is being scorned. So, if the mom really prides herself on doing special things for her kid and he knows it, it's more hurtful when he says "whatever" than if she was mocking him when she asked what he wanted because she was just going to give him cold spaghetti-o's anyway.
I think the worst possible use of the word (and probably the most common, unfortunately) is in the context of a serious discussion or argument. When people discuss something important to them, they become personally invested in their argument. For however brief a time, they are staking their identity on that argument being respected and hopefully believed by others. To say "whatever" in a situation like that is to express indifference not only to the argument they're making, but also to the person investing herself in that argument. It indicates that her argument is not only wrong, but contemptible and not worthy of a well-reasoned response.
Again, there's a spectrum. If you're arguing over how you should split the utility bill with your roommate, and you're explaining how you paid for more of the groceries this month, and she ends up just saying "whatever" and throwing an extra $20 bill at you and walking away, that's rude. But at least you got the $20. True, she's expressing that your argument isn't worth responding to, but at least she is implicitly agreeing with you. And it was only about money anyway. It's not like you put your heart and soul into buying extra groceries.
If the reason you think she owes more of the utility bills is that she had a guest over for a week that used a lot of the water and electricity, and that you went out of your way to be hospitable to the guest by cooking him food and cleaning up after him and giving him the nicer bed, and she says "whatever" in that situation, it's more insulting than the first situation. This is because she is discounting the nice things you did and the nice person you are. She doesn't even want to hear about it. It's not worthy of a response, much less her thanks. You invested yourself, personally, in making her guest feel good and making your roommate look good, and she didn't even care. That hurts, because that's YOU she's scoffing at.
Even worse is when you are discussing something truly important to you, like your deepest beliefs about yourself or the world around you. If you've gone to the effort and emotion to lay out an intricate argument, implying that you care deeply about the topic AND about having the other person respect you, and their only response is "whatever," I think that is the height of rudeness.
There are SO many better responses. Obviously, the ideal response is another well-reasoned argument on the other side. Failing that, I am totally ok when somebody says "this is where our disagreement lies, and we're not going to be able to agree on that point, so I would rather stop talking about this." Or "you are not making any sense, and I am not going to respond to you until you calm down." Or "you have insulted me, and I will not talk to you until you apologize."
Each of those are hard to hear. But at least they recognize that a human being with feelings has made himself vulnerable by presenting an argument that is an extension of his identity. At least they present a reason that you want to end the conversation.
All the word "whatever" (or any similarly dismissive word or gesture) accomplishes in that situation is to dismiss the argument as not worthy of a decent response. And in certain circumstances, that is akin to dismissing the speaker herself as not worthy of respect as a human individual.
Such is the power of language.



16 Comments:
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You don't have a female roommate, do you Matt?
Are you majoring in English btw?
So true. I find the only time I say whatever, in the rude way, is when I've been arguing with someone for a while, and we're not connecting at all, we're not progressing toward a resolution, we're not really communicating, usually because one or both of us is being irrational. And so, to leave the argument, and also I suppose to sum up how I feel, I'll break eye-contact, and say "whatever," and then usually leave. It takes far less effort, and is far less productive unfortunately, than saying one of those "better responses" you mentioned.
I totally understand where you're coming from.
The thing is that I'm italian and I don't think there is such a word in italian, so when I was in the US and realized how that worked, I thought of it as pretty insulting also. So I definitely understand.
Another thing I found really annoying was how in an argument people would clarify a previous statement, saying "that is not what I said" and rephrasing it so that it actually changes their position on the subject a little and you need to start the fight all over again. Not that it matters much, but it always implies that the issue is just a matter of communication even when it's not, and in the end you always drop the discussion. What's the point in not finishing it? If it didn't matter in the first place, then why start it; if it did matter, then let's reach a point!
Dude ... whatever ....
in the Twin Cities we have a tv show called whatever. Check it out at www.kare11.com
The problem lies with rude, dismissive behavior, not with the word "whatever". Just because "whatever" is often used as a rebuff does not mean that it is intrinsically offensive.
There is no reason to make this connection; why waste your time hating a WORD?
I believe that the term "whatever" crept into our vernacular around the same time as "dude" and these terms, along with very characteristic inflections, were promulgated by a distinctly young group of people. My distinct impression is that of a peabrain who cannot carry a thought or a conversation and dismisses it with "Whatever, (dude).!
(Was this post an excerpt from a paper you wrote for class?)
that whole mom thing is soooo sad. I could never do that to my mom.
I mostly agree with you matt, but about what you said:
[teen says] "What would you like for dinner, Sweetie?" and the kid says "Whatever, Mom."
Personally I would have taken that as a POSITIVE response. If I said "whatever" to my mom in a situation like that, it would be because I'm trying to express the idea that I would like ANYTHING she would cook. But of course that depends on the TONE in which how you say it... which brings me to another point.
You used your post to make a point about the power of language. While I agree that language has power, I must say I hate it how people often confuse the whole thing. The only purpose of language is to express the ideas you want to express. That's it. Language itself has no power (or at least it shouldn't, it only has power when people get confused) IDEAS do. It is all the IDEAS you talked about (indifference) and not the word "whatever". It's like the word nigger. Or spic. Or whatever. In the context I'm using it, nobody should get offended because the word itself has no power. I am not using those words as derogatory terms, but as words to make my point about language.
and to tie it back to what I was saying before, and you made that point too, the context in which you use it as well as the tone and body gestures and stuff is what has the power. It's not the language.
(the reason I'm nitpicking all this is because I keep hearing about language having power and there are even sociological hypotheses (the whorf hypothesis or something?) that say that language is what creates ideas and all this crap which I completely disagree with.)
correction: it should say "[mom says]" not "[teen says]"
Oh right... I find it very interesting how basically every pronoun you used was "her" or "she". I'm guessing whoever told you about using the word "whatever" was female, so she was on your mind while you typed that and therefore used female pronouns a lot.
It's also interesting because there were some scientists who created an algorithm which can predict the sex of a writer based on how they use pronouns and whatnot. A scaled down version is available here: http://www.bookblog.net/gender/genie.html and if you put your blog entry it says you're female.
lol. But then again, I put some other of your entries in it, and most of them say you're female.
I wonder if there is any difference between straight and gay people?
lol, I just thought he was being progressive. As in, most formal writing in the past has always used the masculin, whereas many contemporary textbooks, papers, articles, etc., use either female pronouns or switch back and forth. Go feminism.
And that idea about language shaping thought! That's fascinating. I've read about it a little, but I'd like to learn more. I think it's part of the premise to some of the ideas in 1984.
Ah-HAH! I KNEW IT! Not only is Matt a sociology professor, but he's a FEMALE sociology professor! hahahahahaha!
I think some people DO use feminine pronouns to be progressive, and of course there's the classical... thing... about a dad and his son going to the ball park, and on the way back they get into a car accident and are almost killed. The ambulance takes them to the hospital, and when they get to the emergency room, the doctor sees the kid lying in the stretcher and exclaims "That's my son!"
...matt's entry doesn't strike me as using feminine pronouns to be progressive. Matt is a gay male blogger who writes a blog mainly oriented towards other gay men. The subject of females doesn't come up all that much, and I imagine he would have said something about it if that was his intention.
Of course, I'm probably completely wrong even attempting to speculate on why he does things... I guess it must be very funny for matt to read the comments and see people speculating about how he thinks... and educational too... but anyway back to the topic...
As usual there's tons of info out there about language, thought, and how they are related, but I just want to link this podcast because I thought it was very interesting. Besides, you just have to listen. No reading :)
http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/04-05/sep11.html
I have objections to them taking the tribe as evidence for the sapir-whorf hypothesis, but I have a tendency to rant (lol pretty obvious huh?) and I don't want to hijack the comments.
ROFLMAO... female sociology professor...
Howdy, Matt...
Permission to link this article on my blog? Of course, I'll be stating your name, linking your site, and stating an 'adults only' warning. Is that okay?
My first thought after reading this post was to comment
Anonymous said:
"whatever"
(I had just read the post about Anonymous)
So I laughed when I saw that that WAS the first comment;-}
It's all in the tone it's said, lol.
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